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  • The guy that walt kills in the first season in the basement liked his sandwhiches with the crust cut off. In the episodes after Walt kills him you see scenes where he makes sandwhiches with the crust cut off. Does anyone thinks this has significance? Maybe he takes a trait of each person he kills? I'm not too sure what traits he'd adopt for Gus or Mike though

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    • To be honest I don't recall the guy from season one asking for his crust cut off I think Walt did it simply because he is a perfectionist and at the time was generally trying to show the guy that he was not a killer in case he did decide to let him go (fearing the guy would want to kill him, which of course he did).

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    • @Tdtdtd: Walter saw Krazy-8 removing the crust at the first time he gave him a sandwich, and from that point foward he always cuts the crust.

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    • No not always. Go back and watch the entire series. He does that a total of 1 time after krazy 8, and it is in ep 301.

      The only other character trait inherited would be the ability to use / hurt kids by Gus.

      Mike, and Jane I really can't find any link to their character trait that Walt might've picked up and I'm confidently asuming their are none until Vince Gilligan decides to talk about this fan theory, and probably exposes the whole thing as false. 

      This is an interesting concept, but it has some plotholes. I would say he adopted the ability to use / hurt kids when he killed Gus, but that was the very thing that killed Gus was him poisoning brock, so he inherited that trait before killing Gus. So maybe he inherited that from the 2 rival dealers he killed that were working for Gus and were directly responsible for the kids' death. When he kills Gus he gains the ability to shrug off the killing as shit happens and moves on to his business, as seen when Todd shoots the dirt bike kid he is seen whistling by jesse shortly after.

      I can't account for Mike. The internet likes to think that Walt started putting ice in his drink after killing Mike. I see that as pretty weak thinking.   

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    • Yes I think the same way, I started waching the entire series again a few weeks ago to see if its true. I am not sure if this things are true or not but here is what I found.

      Crazy 8 - Sandwich crust

      Gustavo - He stares at his car towards the end of the season and later on he was seen driving a similar car at the begining of last season he also talks on the phone just like gustavo and starts acting a lot like him and Tyrus.

      Mike- He took a wiskey just like Mike used to have it on the rocks, before he had it just neat.

      Rival dealers - He started use / hurt kids

      Plane crash - He kept the Teddie Bear eyeball for some reason, there was no reason for him to keep it.

      Gale - He kept the book Gale gave him, along with the message there was no reason for him to keep that kind of evidence with him. He also drinked coffe from his coffe machine.

      I dont know how to relate Emilios death with the theory but I remember on the first episode he could not stand the smoke from his cigarrate but is later on seen smoking weed. Also the Fly is somehow related to Jane.

      I saw somewhere someone posted that it might be why at the beging of the last season he arranged his bacon using the number 52 and he used Skyler's last name because she will probably die.

      Also, when Todd killed the kid he kept the tarantula.

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    • the fly stands for loss of control in general, not just Jane. teh creator has gone on record sayin that. 

      I can't agree with the car, as those were two completely different cars, Gus' focusing on luxury and Walt's focusing on speed, and Im pretty sure Gus was chaufferred every where. and I cant agree with the Mike thing, its just too flat. 

      as for the eyeball, he sits it on his bed, probably intending to get around to throwing it away. Then the cousins drop it on the floor and it rolls under the bed. Eventually it gets too a drawer where the last person seen picking it up is Skyler. still not sure what the teddybear represents.

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    • I am not entirely sold on this theory but you have broughten up some good points so I just wanted to through one more in for fun..... Walt makes his own birthday number with his bacon like you said so if this is a trend maybe he killed her too? I don't think HE will exactly but who knows (somebody should ;))

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    • ive heard that one too. i think its a good chance she'll be dead by the time we catch up to that flashforward. Some people have been saying that walt may have poisoned her drink with the ricin in that second to last scene from Gliding Over all. Apparently he is seen looking at her drink. I don't know about this because there was no reason to kill her at that point. i'll have to go back and watch that scene, and that episode airs at 8 tonight. 

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    • That's an interesting point about Walter making his own birthday number!

      And a few more possibly inherited traits I noticed...

      In an earlier episode Mike tells Walt to "learn to take yes for an answer," and in the episode "Gliding Over All" Walt tells Lydia the exact same thing.

      Also, in the episode where Gus kills off the cartel, he goes into the bathroom, lays a towel down in front of the toilet for his knees, then proceeds to vomit. In the latest episode "Blood Money," Walter does the same thing in his house because the cancer has come back.

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    • in the scene with walt and lydia at the car wash walt is acting just like gus did in his place of business, trying to act professional while taking care of drug discussions in a public biz....his mannerisms are very similar to gus

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    • I dont think Walt is copying his victims on purpose, but the writers must be scripting Walter like this intentionally.

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    • I think that’s a silly trail of coincidences. This is not "Heros," people don't absorb each others "powers". The "traits" he picks up from Gus, and anyone else, are just a matter of the shows namesake, Breaking Bad. As in, they are things that happen to your moral code when you become a meth crime lord.

      He doesn't kill kids, Todd did. He does, however accept their deaths as a cost of doing business. This isn't a trait of Gus' per se, it's the trait of an asshole.

      As for sandwiches and putting ice in whiskey, I would say Walter is just choosing to be more of a namby-pamby. For a man who takes his whiskey straight, adding ice would be sacrilege. I would say it's safe to assume that very few people decide to start eating sandwiches at his age without crust. So maybe your right, but I think it’s reaching. There’s more interesting connections in the show to focus on.


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    • How can Walt kneeling on a towel in the bathroom be copying Gus? Walt wasn't even in Mexico when that happened. The scene between Walt and Lydia is very much like how Walt reacted with Gus when trying to first initialise a deal. The desparation and calmness of both individuals is re created except Walt isnt as cool as Gus was.

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    • Have to say, I thought it was all conincidental at first...but this weeks episode, when WW is vomiting, he places a towel under his knees after vomiting, and the manner in which he did so reminded me of Gus in 'Salud' when he induced vomiting in himself. The difference was that Gus placed the towel under his knees prior to vomiting. Tactictoe (talk) 19:16, August 14, 2013 (UTC)

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    • I think I need to reword my comment... Walter doesnt copy the traits of his victims, but I think its an easter egg from the writers.

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    • Well nothing seems to happen by coincidence so far, I dont know if the towel is a trait because Walter wasnt there when Gustavo poisoned the cartel members but it might mean something else, a symbol like the Fly, the control remote car, etc. But I still think that he is keeping traits.

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    • If you notice, the way Walt talks to Lydia at the car wash (alternating between a loud, cheerful business owner and a quiet meth distributer) is A LOT like when Gus greeted him at Los Pollos Hermanos in "Bug."

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    • Haroldthefish wrote:


      In an earlier episode Mike tells Walt to "learn to take yes for an answer," and in the episode "Gliding Over All" Walt tells Lydia the exact same thing.


      Yes that is it, Mike said that to Walter during episode "Thirty-Eight Snub", he said "Do yourself a favor and learn to take yes for an answer."  I dont think we have irrefutable evidence but we do have something pretty close here.

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    • Diedfamous wrote:

      I think that’s a silly trail of coincidences. This is not "Heros," people don't absorb each others "powers". The "traits" he picks up from Gus, and anyone else, are just a matter of the shows namesake, Breaking Bad. As in, they are things that happen to your moral code when you become a meth crime lord.

      He doesn't kill kids, Todd did. He does, however accept their deaths as a cost of doing business. This isn't a trait of Gus' per se, it's the trait of an asshole.

      As for sandwiches and putting ice in whiskey, I would say Walter is just choosing to be more of a namby-pamby. For a man who takes his whiskey straight, adding ice would be sacrilege. I would say it's safe to assume that very few people decide to start eating sandwiches at his age without crust. So maybe your right, but I think it’s reaching. There’s more interesting connections in the show to focus on.

      I have to disagree, if Walt really does adapt traits from people he kills then it's EXTREMELY significant in determining future events, because he did the bacon trick on his birthday in S5E1, so if we are right and Walt really is doing this, then that makes it extremely likely that Walt killed Skyler sometime before that point in time, either by mistake or not, so it's significant speculation.

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    • I wouldn't have noticed that 'do yourself a favor and learn to take yes for an answer' if it weren't for watching the S4 and S5 marathons on AMC so close together. This is much more legit than he now takes his drinks on the rocks.

      I think its important to note that

      1. the stuff that is transferred to walter from death can be a habit, a material object, or a quote

      2. If it is a habit, it can occur one time or more and then never again, and doesn't necessarily stick with walt through the entire rest of the show

      3.  The 'transfer' as I'll call it, can occur before the 'kill' or several episodes after (IE Krazy 8's sandwich crust in the season 3 premeire) 

      4. The 'kill' can be direct, indirect, or Walt can just sit on the sidelines and allow (IE Jane). In other words, Walt can be the one pulling the trigger, or he can be the one ordering the pull of the trigger, or he can just sit back and watch happenstance occur. 

      5.  In Ep 103 when he is talking to Krazy 8, Krazy says this line of work doesn't suit him.everytime there is a transfer, Walt is becoming more and more of a criminal. He is literally inheriting their criminal traits.

      Like I've been saying, the problem with the fan theory lies in exactly what has been transferred over between each kill. Vince Gilligan said he wasn't going to go online and read any fan stuff about the show until the show was over so he wouldn't transfer any of the fans ideas over to the actual show, so i can't wait until he goes online and verifies exactly which things were inherited. Until then Let me try a more accurate, organized list of the kills and their traits inherited, as well as which ones im debunking. 

      1. Emilio Koyama - Starts smoking pot and smokes a cigar once. (Maybe, but its a bit of a stretch of the imagination)

      2. Krazy 8 - Cuts the crust off his PBJ sandwhich (ONE TIME!) . [LEGIT] 

      3. Jane Margolis - The Pink teddy bear can be seen on a mural hanging up in Jane Margolis' bedroom. The pink teddy bear then lands in the pool approximately one episode later. [LEGIT] If anything is transferred over from Jane, I think this would be it.

      4. The Rival Dealers in 312 - The rival dealers use a kid and they kill a kid. The kill transfers to walt the ability to use / harm kids to get the job done, and possibly kill children if necessary, even though it doesn't come to that with Brock. [Legit]

      5. Gale Boetticher - Leaves of Grass. [Legit, although this one might be too obvious and might just be part of the story instead of part of the theory]

      6. Gus - With Gus he gains the ability of Immorral Immunity for a kid dying under his command. He might be swayed by Drew Sharp's death, but he doesn't let it get to him and is seen whistling shortly after.  [Legit] 

      - Walt starts driving an Estate car [Debunked]. I can never remember Gus driving behind the wheel of anything. He was always Cheaufferred. And the Luxury cars of Gus' and Walt's sports car are 2 totally different vehicles. One was built for luxury, the other speed and handling. 

      7. Tyrus - ? 

      8. Tio / Hector - ? [maybe walt will eventually sacrifice his life to take revenge for the death of his family] 

      9. Mike - Now drinks his drinks on the rocks [DEBUNKED]. In 508, Hank asks 'want a drink'. Walt says 'sure'. Hank asks 'on the rocks, right.' Walt says 'yep.' Hank already knew from past experience that Walt drank his drinks on the rocks, meaning he'd probably been doing that the whole time, before mike's death.

      - "Do yourself a favor and learn to take yes for an answer." [Legit].

      10. The jail killings - [?]  


      So here's another question: Is than fan theory only limited to walt? Here are some other transfers that other character have gotten

      Hank

      1. Killing Tuco - Hank receives Tuco's grill in a big see through cube.

      2. Killing the Cousins - One of the cousins loses their legs, and Hank becomes a cripple. 

      The Cousins

      1. Killing Tortuga - Tortuga got his name because he always took his time. In every scene with the cousins it seemed to me they were always walking really slow and taking their time with whatever they were doing. This was probably originally done for a number of reasons (to fill for time, and for Vince Gilligan being a master of pacing), but it might could be considered a transfer.

      Todd

      1. Killing the kid - Todd receives the kid's tarantula . [now if walt kills Todd, would he start becoming the one pulling the trigger on children?] 

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    • Good that you changed your mind on this theory mabe you can help.

      I remember a lot of times Gustavo drove his own car  he was not always Cheaufferred, remember Walter and Hank put a GPS on his car, Also when he goes to meet the cartel brothers in the desert and I am sure there are plenty of other examples.

      I am not completely satisfied by Gale, they spent part of an episode together there is got to be something more, I keep looking but cant find anything. The searies is not over yet so we might get some more "transfers" over the season.

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    • Season 5 Episode 1 - Walter is not wearing his ring like he always does, when eating breakfast, he always wore it even at the meth lab.------She will die

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    • I don't think he takes on solely the traits of people he has murdered, rather those whose lives he has ruined.

      In that regard we should include Jane's father: Donald Margolis. Walt started wearing a goatee just like his in ABQ, the episode after Jane's death in Phoenix.

      In fact I think we first see the Walt's goatee directly before or after a close up scene of Donald working air traffic.

      An interesting note is that Donald Margolis is played by John de Lancie who is most famous for his role as Q in Star Trek. In Star Trek's mirror universe goatees pop up on evil versions of characters. Walt started sporting that beard after what was argubly his first despicable act and beginnning of his descent to darkness. Also notice his goatee gets darker and darker.

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    • @The Youth Counselor: Good observation, I didn't notice this.

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    • Look back the entire series, i guarantee you Gus was never behind the steering wheel of a car. And as for the car parked at LPH, it was parked there even when he wasn't there. 

      As for the ring, it could just be he took it off to match the story to go along with his new identity, Mr. Landers or whatever. But i still think Skyler and possibly Hank are dead by the time we catch up to the flashforward

      As for what could've been transferred from Gale, he made good coffee, he drank green tea, he bought all sorts of weird crap like some sort of electronic tea temperature reader device, he wore socks with sandals, and he listened to all sorts of weird music in his apartment like some sort of chinese and mexican folk songs that he seemed to know the lyrics to, and he was a Ron Paul supporter.

      All of that is ruled out except for Gale's love for poetry. The poetry doesn't stop with Walt Whitman and Gliding Over all, or Leaves of Grass. Walt is reading 'Ozymandias' poem in the teaser trailer for Season 5B, and episode 514 is entitled Ozymandias. So maybe the transfer was a love for poetry. Either that or just the book.  

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    • Diedfamous wrote:

      I think that’s a silly trail of coincidences. This is not "Heros," people don't absorb each others "powers". The "traits" he picks up from Gus, and anyone else, are just a matter of the shows namesake, Breaking Bad. As in, they are things that happen to your moral code when you become a meth crime lord.

      He doesn't kill kids, Todd did. He does, however accept their deaths as a cost of doing business. This isn't a trait of Gus' per se, it's the trait of an asshole.

      As for sandwiches and putting ice in whiskey, I would say Walter is just choosing to be more of a namby-pamby. For a man who takes his whiskey straight, adding ice would be sacrilege. I would say it's safe to assume that very few people decide to start eating sandwiches at his age without crust. So maybe your right, but I think it’s reaching. There’s more interesting connections in the show to focus on.


      I think you might be forgetting that writers who are good at their craft tend to imbue as much symbolism as possible into their writing.  This is especially true when they show themselves to be very focused on foreshadowing.  Some of the things could conceivably be coincidences, but when they make a point of focusing (remember, this is a scripted show, with writers, directors, camera crews, cinematographers, etc., where everything that happens is deliberate) on things like cutting the crust off a sandwich, or changing drink preferences, or re-using phrases, it's a good bet that it's there for a reason.

      Also, symbolism doesn't need to be explainable from the character's perspective.  For instance, when Gus murders the cartel, we see him neatly folding a towel and kneeling on it to throw up.  In the ninth episode of season 5 (or first of season 6, depending how you count them), we see Walt doing the exact same thing.  Obviously, Walt couldn't possible have known Gus did this, but the similarity is unmistakable.  And this isn't a "crime lord" thing.  It's a distinct and very minor mannerism, included purely for the sake of being symbolic.  Symbolism gives the audience a little more to think about, and when combined with foreshadowing, some hints as to what might be ahead of us.

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    • @Madrigal-Ehrmantraut google "breaking bad gustavo's car" and the second picture is a scene from where he drove to meet the cartel brothers season 3 episode 6 at the very end, also remember when he meets with Mike at a parking lot in season 3 episode 4 minute 29. He did drove his own car sometimes. I guarantee you that this is true.

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    • As for the ring, it could just be he took it off to match the story to go along with his new identity, Mr. Landers or whatever. But i still think Skyler and possibly Hank are dead by the time we catch up to the flashforward 

      I need to double-check, but I thought that the surname was Lambert...as in Skyler's maiden name.

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    • Madrigal-Ehrmantraut wrote:

      6. Gus - With Gus he gains the ability of Immorral Immunity for a kid dying under his command. He might be swayed by Drew Sharp's death, but he doesn't let it get to him and is seen whistling shortly after.  [Legit] 


      Walt was also acting a lot like Gus to Lydia in the carwash scene in last week's episode. I mean in a way where he'll briefly say something business related in a blunt manner and then seemlessly revert to his false persona of 'upstanding car wash owner'. In Gus' case it was the same, only with a chicken restaraunt instead.

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    • Yep I caught on that too, but now i think there are too many instances to make a quality comprehensive list of this fan theory, but i tried. 

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    • I think Walt adopting similar traits to Gus are there to show WW's descent into complete lunacy a la Gustavo.

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    • Really, I see this theory as a continuation of what we already know:

      The writers are constantly using foreshadowing and references to past events and characters, and often mixing the two. Furthermore, the symbols chosen are initially weird and puzzling, and goes against the grain of what one would expect given the genre.

      The Teddy bear is a perfect example; puzzling, somewhat anticlimatical in its revelation and now used as a reference (as the eye). The twins crawling, then one of them crawling on the hospital floor, then Hank being crippled is another good example - foreshadowing, scene, reference.

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      Few people would claim (I hope) that Walt is 'taking on traits' in some magic way, and I do think that it can seem that way mostly because he is the main character. Walt needs to have the eye for us to see it, he wears the goatee, etc.

      But that this happens to Hank too makes me believe it is a bit more than just symbols being placed in plain view. The symbolism does 'go with a specific character'.

      Maybe you could divide these up in; dramatic irony (the stuff the characters themselves are not aware of, or at least not the result of any conscious choice), chosen personal reminders (often connected with guilt) and new capabilities.

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      Dramatic irony.
      Walt from Gus (mannerisms) - Towel, car wash scene.
      Hank from the Twins (bum legs) - Twins crawling, losing legs, Hank crippled.
      Walt from Mike (yes for an answer) - ...

      Personal reminders.
      Walt from Krazy-8 - When making a sandwich.
      Walt from Jane - The pink teddy and eye from mural and plane.
      Walt from Mike - Walt drinks his whiskey like Mike.
      Walt from Gale - Book.
      Hank from Tuco - Grill.
      Todd from Drew - Tarantula.

      New capabilites.
      Walt from Krazy-8 (criminal) - Pretty vague, but he is certainly changed by the experience...
      Walt from dealers (kids) - Using kids as sellers, as motivation for Jesse.
      Walt from Hector (self sacrifice) - Remains to be seen...
      Walt from Gus (empire, cold) - Walt becomes increasingly cold and oriented towards 'the empire' vs 'enough money'. Maybe he will take some drawn out revenge too?
      Walt from Mike (?) - Efficiency? Maybe the ability to quit ("I'm out"), leave well enough alone? Handling "the guys", using contacts, ordering mass murders? Or will he become a great shot with the M60?


      Especially for the personal reminders, the connecting factor is (often) guilt. It also seems to me that capabilities are only something Walt gains. This makes perfect sense, given that the whole show is about him becoming capable of terrible things. He takes on the worst traits of those left in his wake; he is learning from terrible people and circumstances.

      The only real "transfer" of capabilities I see is limited to:
      A) To Walt
      B) From serious adversaries and "bad guys"

      I don't think Walt gained anything from Jane, Tyrus or various henchmen. Or the inmates, for that matter. Nor am I too sure about Hector and Mike (who were hardly his adversary at the time). I also cannot think of anyone besides Walt who "gained" any new abilities.

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      Anywho, possible interpretations regarding future events:
      Walt may well have taken on Gus' long-lingering need for revenge. Hence the Ricin and M60.
      Walt may sacrifice himself, as Hector did.
      Skyler is dead (no wedding ring, reminding himself of her through name and bacon).


      PS: Has Jesse ever taken on traits, reminders or been the 'victim' of any symbolism following Gale's murder? Has Mike, Gus or The Cousins ever taken on any traits or symbols?

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    • After Tuco was killed Walt Adopted his Gotee.  After Jane was killed Walt adopted her Dark color clothes.  In the eairly seasons walt is almost allways wearing kakhi pants whereas now he almost allways wears black. Mike allways wore that canvas jacket, and in the flash forwards in this final season walt is seen wearing a canvas jacket.

      --- Just a thought

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    • No no Lancgtx, thats terrible. 

      He grows the goatee out during the 3 week time span separating season 2 from season 3, so it is more accurate if he inherited it from Don Margolis. And Heisenberg has been wearing black ever since episode 107. 

      Walter White is usually wearing light colors, including some beige. His alias Heisenberg prefers black, and sometimes green for symbolizing greed. 

      Now Lancgtx, lets not get this fan theory any more congested than it is. Lets not turn it into a fashion statement, Walts not raiding Mike's wardrobe

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    • Learn to take yes for answer

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    • ok, he can handle the fan theory, and ill handle him

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    • Thank Ricin, great link. The relevant quote regarding this discussion, for convenience:




      -  There's one specific theory, about Walt taking on the attributes of people he's killed including Gus Fring and Krazy-8, which I wanted to ask you about. Was that intentional? -  "That one was purposeful, yes. Specifically in regards to Gus. ... So yeah, he takes on those traits, I think subconsciously."


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    • Lundse wrote:

      Thank Ricin, great link. The relevant quote regarding this discussion, for convenience:




      -  There's one specific theory, about Walt taking on the attributes of people he's killed including Gus Fring and Krazy-8, which I wanted to ask you about. Was that intentional? -  "That one was purposeful, yes. Specifically in regards to Gus. ... So yeah, he takes on those traits, I think subconsciously."


      Good, that means he will spill the beans in depth on which traits are actually traits and which traits are coincidence, such as Mike's 'On the rocks'

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    • This reminds me of a fan theory on Lost where each character was 1 of the 7 deadly sins. BUT THERE WAS WAY MORE THAN 7 CHARACTERS - that created the turmoil in the fan theory. I could always figure out that Hurley was Gluttony and Sawyer was Pride. From there it got sketchy

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    • Madrigal-Ehrmantraut wrote:
      This reminds me of a fan theory on Lost where each character was 1 of the 7 deadly sins. BUT THERE WAS WAY MORE THAN 7 CHARACTERS - that created the turmoil in the fan theory. I could always figure out that Hurley was Gluttony and Sawyer was Pride. From there it got sketchy

      That might not have been true for Lost but it was definitely the case for Gilligans' Island whose creator went on to state that each of the characters was to represent a sin except for Gilligan who was the devil and keeping them on the island which represented hell.

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    • The Youth Counselor wrote:
      Madrigal-Ehrmantraut wrote:
      This reminds me of a fan theory on Lost where each character was 1 of the 7 deadly sins. BUT THERE WAS WAY MORE THAN 7 CHARACTERS - that created the turmoil in the fan theory. I could always figure out that Hurley was Gluttony and Sawyer was Pride. From there it got sketchy
      That might not have been true for Lost but it was definitely the case for Gilligans' Island whose creator went on to state that each of the characters was to represent a sin except for Gilligan who was the devil and keeping them on the island which represented hell.

      okay, would the skipper be gluttony or wrath? And amongst the rich couple, which one would be considered greed? Im guessing the other one would be pride. The hot girl would be lust. i forget the rest of the characters. 

      But how about VINCE GILLIGAN'S ISLAND

      Hell - ABQ

      Pride - Walt

      Greed - Saul (Of course Walts not in it for the money near as much as he is in it for the pride. He has bought a total of 3 sports cars, and 1 car wash, all of them leases. The rest of the spent money has gone strictly to keeping him out of prison which isnt considered a luxury of greed. Definetely extravagant, but for that kind of cash he could've definetely done better, so for this one im going with saul).

      Lust - Skyler (for cheating)

      Envy -  Jesse (during S3 at least). 

      Wrath - Wrath = Anger, so I am going with Mike as front runner. Theres also Gus, but he used his anger a form of intimidation rather than just blind rage in its purest form.    

      Gluttony - Huel 

      and a few people in the show that actually managed to escape purgatory (ABQ) briefly - Jesse, Mike, and Gus who leave ABQ in Salud.

      Well i just came up with a fan theory. Of course envy, and wrath aren't perfect, and walt himself has at least 5 of these himself.

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    • I think Vince said in the 5.1 commentary that Walt's Volvo was meant to mirror Gus's. It could be true in some cases. I kind of hope not because if true, it would suggest Walt might be responsible for Sky and Jesse's deaths. If you have seen the one promo from later in S5b, Jesse has longer hair and a beard and looks a heck of a lot like Walt from the 5.1 teaser.

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    • Your arm might fall off if you reach any further. There is no link between a car that made a 5 second appearance and the deaths of 2 of the 3 most important characters.

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    • What about Jane? Walt let her die, correct? Well, remember how Jane talked about the painting about the door? Well take a look at this  

      Walter's birthdays, may have a connection to Jane

      Walter's 50th birthday http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/webdr01/2013/8/14/10/grid-cell-4531-1376492340-30.jpg Walter's 51st birthday http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/webdr01/2013/8/14/10/grid-cell-4531-1376492340-32.jpg

      Walter's 52nd birthday http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/webdr01/2013/8/14/10/grid-cell-4531-1376492341-34.jpg

      Crazy 8's sandwich http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/webdr01/2013/8/13/12/anigif_enhanced-buzz-23320-1376410908-11.gif

      Walter's sandwich after Crazy 8's death http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/webdr01/2013/8/14/9/anigif_original-grid-image-9080-1376486134-9.gif

      Now time for Gus

      Gus's car http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/webdr06/2013/8/14/9/anigif_original-grid-image-30297-1376486395-30.gif

      Walter's car in Season 5 http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/webdr06/2013/8/14/9/anigif_original-grid-image-30297-1376486397-34.gif

      Gus and the towel http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/webdr06/2013/8/14/9/anigif_original-grid-image-30382-1376486848-18.gif

      Walt and the towel http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/webdr06/2013/8/14/9/anigif_original-grid-image-30382-1376486850-22.gif

      Now time for Mike

      Mike, ice in drink, and Walter says no to the ice in his drink http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/webdr02/2013/8/13/12/anigif_enhanced-buzz-17374-1376411525-48.gif

      Walter, at Hanks house and accepts ice in his drink http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/webdr06/2013/8/15/5/anigif_original-grid-image-22550-1376560777-18.gif

      Mike to Walt  http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/webdr02/2013/8/14/6/anigif_enhanced-buzz-4440-1376474422-1.gif

      Walt to lydia (After Mike's death)

      http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/webdr05/2013/8/14/6/anigif_original-grid-image-10299-1376474483-11.gif

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