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How did nobody get shot?



How on earth did nobody get shot during the standoff at the end?  5 or 6 professional hit-men locked on to two open people with automatic weapons.  It's completely Implausible that neither Hank nor Gomez nobody were hit.  I'm perversely disappointed

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Madrigal-Ehrmantraut wrote:

i watched the scene again since I have dvr 

Online is free. Screw dvr

BrBa wrote:
Madrigal-Ehrmantraut wrote:
BrBa wrote:
LucasLeturiaLecaros wrote:
I read that the shootout only lasts for 10 seconds, and all the different shots it's different people's POV
i could see that being the case too.  either way, people were too critical of this scene.
i watched the scene again since I have dvr, and now i'm thinking none of the nazis really had a very good shot. Even though Hank and Gomie are not directly behind the van yet (that walter is in), the van is still blocking a little bit. 
yea i agree. if anything, gomez was a little exposed, but one or two steps to his left and the suv cuts off the angle pretty good.

yeah, i can see how people could think that cause everything happened so fast, and everyone's heart was pounding (my heart's still pounding, i had to do some yoga this week), even though parts were in slow motion. But heres more of what i noticed:

Even though Hank and Gomie are not directly behind the van when the shooting starts, the van is still blocking the view of the nazis. Take in mind that both parties, DEA and NAZI, are at the same ground level. Gomie seems a little more out in the open than Hank, but from their diagonal line of shooting he is actually directly behind Hank in terms of the Nazi's line of fire. Plus Hank and Gomie are consistently both slowly creeping closer and closer to the van. By the time the shooting starts they are both very close. That is when the show briefly switches to slow motion, so it might seem like they are in the open longer than they actually are. But in reality Hank and Gomie have just enough time to fire about 2-3 shots before they dive behind the van. By the shot at 1:02:26, Hank is completely behind the van and Gomie is pretty damn close. From the shoulders up it seems they are exposed. The rest of their body is behind the van. By 1:02:27 they are completely crouched down behind the van, and Gomie is crouched behind the front (or hood) of the van. 

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Smellygypo wrote:


How on earth did nobody get shot during the standoff at the end?  5 or 6 professional hit-men locked on to two open people with automatic weapons.  It's completely Implausible that neither Hank nor Gomez nobody were hit.  I'm perversely disappointed

--And rightly so you are! You're not the only one. Just about every podcast I've heard has said the same thing. It also goes back to my post I wrote right after the episode aired. I will feel cheated if Hank does not die. This is for 2 reasons...1. If he's going to die, that should have been how the episode ended (not how the next one begins!) and 2. It's like you said...what did they have?--like half a dozen guys? How in the world do those men miss both Hank and Gomez? I think in the industry they call this "suspended disbelief" but it probably works better in movies because we've got waaaay too much time to dissect this scene before we get to the next one!

And another side note--something I noticed and MANY other people--what's up with Todd's shooting technique? He reminded me of a little boy practicing with his first BB gun! Look at it again. Plus he's supposed to be this sociopathic, killing machine yet he kind of flinches and blinks after every shot!


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I think Gomez will die immediately
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The dude with the AA12 will take Hank and Gomie's left flank from around the back of their Suburban and end the fight.

In hindisght Gomez was bound to die but i would've like to see him actually die on screen.

This also helps my theory of the Talking Bad Spoiler. 

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The idea that we shoot 250,000 rounds for every Iraqi killed is not relevant to this scene. Modern warfare is about maneuvre and nullification. Soldiers throw down fire to force their enemy into cover while another group maneuvres into a position, under relative safety due to covering fire, that can render the enemy inert through further fire or forced submission. Jack and Hank are not fucking commandos, their hotshots with experience but not tactics. Either way I'm very glad Hank and Gomie are dead and the looks  on Marie are worth it.

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Tejota & BrBa:  1. The scene was botched.  2. The scene was botched.  We shouldn't have to make excuses for a bad scene just because we love the show.  Viewers shouldn't have to go back and look at 'angles', etc to justify a badly shot scene.  Pun intended.  Both teams should have sprayed a few bullets at each other, then cut to fade.  But on the bright side, at least they didn't have the camera slowly zoom in on a fly!  :) 

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It is kind of scary how many ignorant people think that shooting is like on "regular" TV and that everyoine is a crack shot. Ask the people of Chicago lately what it is like ina shootout. Often the ones that get hit are everybody BUT the intended targets. 

As far as "we shouldn't have to go back and look at angles" well...yes you should if YOUY missed those angles the first time. It is not their fault you are not observant, and are ignrant in what really happens ina shootout.

Other than the first shots fired, the rest would ahve been pretty much shoot and hope. As much a chance to miss their targets by 10 feet as a chance to hit them. (Granted, since it is 3 weeks later, we know this is a moot point anyway.)

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You have the same theory on gun control as your average black man and you have the grammar to match.